Replacement Trackmaster Motor

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Has anyone identified a replacement motor for the Trackmaster trains that is close to the factory motors? I have tried several but they have all been much to fast and don't climb hills well.
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if i have a duplicate engine, i just harvest the entire motor along with the battery terminal out.
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My son who loves Thomas has autism and doesn't differentiate what toys should and shouldn't go in water. If I could find a good replacement motor it would be cheaper than replacing engines all the time.
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I hate to say it but if you’re using Trackmaster 2 engines, simply replacing them is sometimes better than trying to swap out the motors. If it’s a hard to find engine like Hiro, I would swap the motor with another TM2 engine that’s easy to get, like Thomas. One of the few advantages of the Trackmaster 2 line is that nearly every chassis part can fit under another locomotive.
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The motors are very easy to swap, I just haven't found the right speed/torque combination to be close to factory.
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Hello Stevenhall81 and welcome to BluePlasticTracks

A couple of things...

First, what country do you reside?
What Trackmaster trains are you referring to? Original or the newer Trackmaster II/Revolution (faster,higher)
What motors have you tried that are too fast for you?

Its interesting that we have had a lot of Members through the years here at BPT and I have talked to several buyers on Ebay that have autistic children that buy these trains. Seems the children pay special attention to them, is this what you find?
I'm in the US. They are the Trackmasters that you can currently buy. I have some if the older ones but the internals for those are much more complicated. My son is pretty heavily into all things Thomas related, the movies, the series, trackmaster, even the bedtime stories we read are Thomas.
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I would just swap out the chassis on the trackmaster 2 (the ones currently selling on the market).

As for the trackmaster 1 version, some may require a triangle screw driver. You can get one on ebay. To make the motor works, make sure the metal plates sticking out at the end connects to the base metal plate. Hard to explain without photos.
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If you are constantly having to fix trains that have been submerged then maybe another option might be to try and seal most of any spots on a motor with something. As an experiment try using a light coat Rubber Cement on any openings or seams on a motor and test it out by dunking the train and see if it may still work later. These newer Trackmaster trains are pretty cheap and the motors are swappable so finding used ones cheap on Ebay is one way to go. You never did say what motors you tried that you thought were too fast and how much those cost. There is also trying the original Trackmaster motors as Leyland says that can be had with used ones
Is it a case of the motor being 'too fast' or simply the gearing that is a problem? If you've been trying the Tamiya motors for example they have specs for the RPM etc... I believe. If its just standard 'can' motors you've been picking up do they maybe need a capacitor or something to change their behaviour?

Not having any Trackmaster I don't know about the internals, maybe someone more familiar with them here would know??

To add to Super's suggestion of sealing the motors, I'm sure you could use some form of rubber or maybe hot glue to seal any joints on the metal work, but if you do don't forget to put some grease around the axle entry point into the can or else water may ingress there and you can't really put any sealant there.

Another thing I would suggest (based on recent experience with a mobile phone Smile) is if you do get one 'dunked' before you try to run it again and potentially short the motor put the model in a sealed plastic box with some raw rice. Leave it for a few days and it should remove any fluid from the motor and it may then work perfectly fine again - it worked for a mobile which took a little trip down a loo Smile
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