From Miniature to BIG

Well as promised here's some pics of the new wagons to go with the Terrier.  I have to say the level of detail is awesome as well as functional.  For example they actually use real 3 link chain couplings like the real thing would, the wheels are all metal and although the fittings they plug into are plastic as you'd expect they do have metal bearing pockets in them to allow free running while protecting the plastic and preventing wear and tear.  In some pictures I put a standard AA battery to give you some idea of size/scale O gauge is described also as 7mm and is approximately 1/43rd to give you some idea.  The pictures in order are a 7 plank coal wagon (yes that is painted in cream inside as well), a brake car as these era of model wagons would not have any braking so rely on a combination of the steam loco and the brake car to get the train to stop without de-railing.  The final car is a 6 wheel tanker wagon (Milk) belonging to the CWS.  Finally I included one picture of the track with the AA battery to give you an idea of the width of the track. 

@Super - you will wet yourself not only rivets all over the place, but planks and girders as well, not to mention the ladder on the milk tanker and the glazing on the brake car...

Oh, I almost forgot all the buffers are sprung and working like the real thing also...

[Super]

OMG...you are right Nigels...I love all of them, I was lucky that I was wearing my adult diapers when viewing your beautiful pictures. My guess on the wooden wagon and break van is that they are bolts and nut on the planks and rivets on the metal under carriage. If fact...in looking closely at those very sharp pictures, aren't the details so sharp that you can see the bolts protruding thru the nut? You sure know how to get my juices flowing Nigels......whoops 😆

There sure is something to be said for O gauge models when you see this level of detail, of course the downside is the amount of space you would need to create some sort of layout is enormous so for the time being my collection of these are limited to display models - which of course is fine as they suit that very well also. I also intend to try to add the odd wagon or whatever every month or two. One idea I may play with is the idea of a layout along shelving high up on the wall. I remember seeing some Thomas O gauge (or was it G gauge?) setup and running just like this in of all places a sweet shop when I visited Wales some years back. Basically it was a big loop going round the whole of the shop area, I could sort of replicate that by putting a large oval round a room on shelving and running a train round it when I feel like it. Definitely something to investigate at some point although the fear of a de-railing incident is something to be concerned about!

In the meantime, look forward to the next batch of nuts, bolts, screws and rivets as I'm sure any new wagons will offer this. I particularly like the 'private owner' coal wagons as there is a massive selection of different wagons in all sorts of colours and carrying various owners. I think you can actually find some collectors who just buy those and nothing else trying to build up a massive selection of the wagons. Myself I'm not going to do that, but just pick up a mixture as I go to make for some nice variety. If you're wondering why I picked that particular wagon first, after all there are some far more colourful/detailed livery ones out there, its quite simple really. I was born in Croydon, Surrey where the owner of that one is nominally listed on the side of it - I must be getting sentimental in my old age lol!

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Incidentally taking those pictures was actually handy as I noticed when looking through them that the guards van does actually have a small problem.  On the side facing the camera you can see a small hole on each upright post at the end of the cabin, there should be fitted there small 'lamp irons' (used to mount rail lamps on when in service to designate various things).  You can see the lamp irons in the back ground of the picture poking out from the uprights on the other side, if I'd not taken and studied those pictures I may not have noticed.  Having done so I've got on to the supplier to see if they can send me spares to fit them myself rather than having to send it all the way back to Sheffield!

[Super]

Good eye noticing those missing hooks. Thats really neat that the wagon has some sentimental value for you and your birthplace Nigels

Incidentally Super, following the discussion about the livery on the terrier, this is now on my wants list; https://www.dapol.co.uk/products/7s-010-...4597913823

All of them are fabulous, I especially like the tanker for being a 6 wheel pice of stock.
Perhaps you could add sone coal to the wagon for some extra detail... Also does this brake van feature any interior details?

Have you considered getting any stroudley coaches fram dapol?

[Super]

You had me when I saw those spoked wheels Nigel. 😃

All of them are fabulous, I especially like the tanker for being a 6 wheel pice of stock.
Perhaps you could add sone coal to the wagon for some extra detail... Also does this brake van feature any interior details?

Have you considered getting any stroudley coaches fram dapol?

As it happens I just need to design up and print an insert to go into the wagons and then I've already got a bottle of 'real coal' sized for O gauge models, so job done!

I did look briefly at the stoudley coaches, but I have a couple of O gauge Gresley Teak coaches which I bought last year (I think) when I picked up the A3 & A4 loco's in the Hattons sale.  I'm not sure who the makers of the coaches are, possibly Heljan as they were the makers of the loco's.  But its not always obvious as these were custom models made specially for Hattons and sold under their brand name.

Totally agree about the 6 wheel tanker also, I could have bought a 4 wheel type instead very similar to the Thomas ones, but decided to get the 6 wheel as it was in the Rails sale at about 50% off

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You had me when I saw those spoked wheels Nigel. 😃

Yes, they are rather nice aren't they, all metal, then coated to make them look gun metal black rather than just leaving them nickel silver colour, they are a masterpiece.  Ironically though the tanker has disc wheels instead even though it is supposed to be the same era model, having said that the couplings on that are different also, more the modern type than the 3 link chain type on the wagon and brake car.  I'll have to check again, but thinking about it I suspect the tank wagon was listed against dual era's (i.e. carried over to a more modern one) so it may be modeled on the later rather than early era design.  Something I'll have to investigate in time.

Incidentally, I just found another one of those Croydon based wagons on eBay, but this time a different wagon number, 22 instead of 20, I may have to get that to go with the one I just got

Had a look and rails still have an offer for a pack of three Stroudley coaches in the mahogany (BT,C,BT) for aprox. £180 unlit or £225 lit.
Also given that you're really into O gauge have you considered the Rapido c53/J70, currently it's just as an expression of interest, so nothing may come out of it, but if it's anything like the OO model it's definitely going to be fantastic!

Thanks for the thoughts, I had already seen the Stroudley set and as you say it is pretty good value bearing in mind the normal cost of O gauge rolling stock.  And, of course those particular carriages are proto-typical for the Terrier locomotives so they are a perfect fit.  Having said that I would hardly say I'm really into O gauge, the first stuff I ever had were the A3/A4 locos and teak coaches that I bought last year and that was only as they seemed a massive bargain taking into consideration the normal cost of O gauge generally.  Also I just don't have the room for a normal O gauge layout as i already mentioned, so if anything they are likely to be static display models in the short term at least.  Still who knows, I could win the lottery tomorrow for all I know, failing that they are a good investment and something nice to look at regardless

As for the Rapido, I can't say I've seen it and I'm not even sure what model it is, in fact I'll go have a look now out of curiosity.

Ah, ok so it is effectively in Thomas terms a model of 'Toby' and his annoying coaches lol.  I couldn't find it on Rails, but I did find a youtube video (below), the actual running starts around 17 mins into it.

https://youtu.be/PRUSKCQMESA?si=T391w2PqvPpsolFy


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