Smokey Joe - Printable Version

Smokey Joe - Printable Version

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Smokey Joe - Nigels - 04-09-2018

Another couple of Hornby 00 gauge items we have another of the little 'pug' 0-4-0 tank loco's I like along with a 'private owner' plank wagon and a guards van;

RE: Smokey Joe - Super - 04-09-2018

Smokey Joe is so cool but in that style Tank Engine, where did they keep the coal or is there a Tender that goes with him?

RE: Smokey Joe - Nigels - 04-09-2018

Now that is a very good question, that class of saddle tank or pug doesn't come with a tender, it could just be an oversight in the modelling, but that would be unlike Hornby who are usually quite accurate. I'll have to look into it and see what I can find out Smile

RE: Smokey Joe - Chrizzly - 04-10-2018

They have small coal reservoirs on each side of their tank, but sometimes hauled a cut-up wooden wagon with coal in it for longer shunting shifts.

RE: Smokey Joe - Super - 04-10-2018

Thanks Chrizzly

Might the small coal bins be here...?

RE: Smokey Joe - Nigels - 04-10-2018

Thanks Chrizzly, makes sense as they were (I believe) mostly used as shunters.

Makes sense to me Super, but on these particular models there is nothing moulded there, maybe a small mod that could be made to make them more realistic. Bearing in mind they have a hatch/doorway on the rear panel I did wonder if they would simply pinch some coal from a wagon, based on what Chrizzly says that would also make sense Smile

I suppose the reason they have not modelled this is that these loco's are typically used in small 'starter' train sets aimed at the younger modeller and they are intended to be more robust 'work' engines for smaller hands. This I feel is doubly so as the bodies on these are actually very solid and the model itself pretty heavy for their size - which of course aids the pulling power too Smile

RE: Smokey Joe - Super - 04-10-2018

The lighting and angle made it look like there was coal in those spaces in front of the cab. That was my feeling too about the opening in the railing on the rear of the cab. Looks like a way to shovel in coal. Looking at the picture below you can just see the front of a wooden coal tender wagon. And take a look at the video where a modeler constructed his own tender wagon and did a fantastic job with weathering.

[Image: LMS_CR_0-4-0_ST_56039_Whiteinch_1.9.58_edited-2.jpg]

RE: Smokey Joe - Nigels - 04-10-2018

Thanks for the video Super, weathering is always one of those things I have mixed feelings about. On the one hand I love the look of realism that you can achieve and its something I'm sure/know I could do if I wanted to as in days gone by I used to paint Warhammer miniatures to a very high standard.

But on the other hand I find myself feeling that I'm being a bit of a vandal when considering effectively trashing a brand new pristine model that looks superb in its own right.

Add to that if you go to a heritage railway you will find that their 'working engines' are so cared for that they look more like those pristine models so should you really weather your models?!?

What I am doing is looking out for old/tatty/cheap but good running loco's that I could weather with a clear conscience on the basis that I'm not ruining a pristine model and in fact am improving it!! Big Grin

RE: Smokey Joe - Super - 04-10-2018

Oh...no...I wasn't suggesting you weather your train...I was just expounding on where the topic of the coal might be kept, on board or a tender type vehicle.

RE: Smokey Joe - Nigels - 04-10-2018

Never thought you were Super, its just one of those things that's always at the back of my mind as something I'd like to have a crack at. Just I want a nice trashed donor model to try it out on lol!