Recruiting Plarail researchers to operate in my team

Thank you Super. 

What I was trying to say is there may be researches done by others already on the subject of plarail which in terms help in your findings.  I wasn't trying to insult you (Vio) or your team's dedication in digging up histories on Plarail products.  I always admire people's dedication toward a subject they are interested in.

Alright, I get your point Super and leyland. I guess I misunderstood the whole thing as this was a very strange comparison between our team and a academician. I don't take jokes very well and I know that... If there is any shocking things I said, then I formally apologise on behalf. Our team saw this thread too and we saw the ongoing conversation as a serious offense.

"there may be researches done by others already on the subject of plarail which in terms help in your findings"

Indeed there are, but they are not as straight to the point and they lack sources of information/incorrect sources.
For example, our ongoing discrepancy is the double rail standard, was it introduced in 1968 or 1969?
The 1968 theory comes from the original box, where it says that the rails came 8 years after 1959, so the rails were manufactured in 1967 and released to market in 1968.
The 1969 theory comes from the official website, and the 20th anniversary catalogue, that the first double rail set was released in 1969.
Which theory is correct? Even the official sources screwed up that bad that no one can solve this. How does Biglobe Plarail Musuem state that the CM was made in 1969 and the set was released in 1968? At this point, the topic that is searched by others before us might be wrong and we are trying to correct it.

(05-15-2021, 01:41 PM)Vio Wrote: Indeed there are, but they are not as straight to the point and they lack sources of information/incorrect sources.
For example, our ongoing discrepancy is the double rail standard, was it introduced in 1968 or 1969?
The 1968 theory comes from the original box, where it says that the rails came 8 years after 1959, so the rails were manufactured in 1967 and released to market in 1968.
The 1969 theory comes from the official website, and the 20th anniversary catalogue, that the first double rail set was released in 1969.
Which theory is correct? Even the official sources screwed up that bad that no one can solve this. How does Biglobe Plarail Musuem state that the CM was made in 1969 and the set was released in 1968? At this point, the topic that is searched by others before us might be wrong and we are trying to correct it.

Has your team considered the following situation which frequently occurs with Plarail:

Designed/manufactured in 1967 --> "Released" to market via distributors as planned in 1968 December --> Accessible/sold/marketed in January 1969

This actually very common for Plarail products. There have been many cases in the past 10 years where products "released" at events could not be delivered until January of the year after.

-plarnold

(05-15-2021, 01:41 PM)Vio Wrote: Alright, I get your point Super and leyland. I guess I misunderstood the whole thing as this was a very strange comparison between our team and a academician. I don't take jokes very well and I know that... If there is any shocking things I said, then I formally apologise on behalf. Our team saw this thread too and we saw the ongoing conversation as a serious offense.

"there may be researches done by others already on the subject of plarail which in terms help in your findings"

Indeed there are, but they are not as straight to the point and they lack sources of information/incorrect sources.
For example, our ongoing discrepancy is the double rail standard, was it introduced in 1968 or 1969?
The 1968 theory comes from the original box, where it says that the rails came 8 years after 1959, so the rails were manufactured in 1967 and released to market in 1968.
The 1969 theory comes from the official website, and the 20th anniversary catalogue, that the first double rail set was released in 1969.
Which theory is correct? Even the official sources screwed up that bad that no one can solve this. How does Biglobe Plarail Musuem state that the CM was made in 1969 and the set was released in 1968? At this point, the topic that is searched by others before us might be wrong and we are trying to correct it.

No problem. I am glad it has been sorted out.  I shouldn't have posted the first message when you have been up for 18 hours straight with 6 hours of sleep.

(05-15-2021, 11:54 PM)plarnold Wrote: Has your team considered the following situation which frequently occurs with Plarail:

Designed/manufactured in 1967 --> "Released" to market via distributors as planned in 1968 December --> Accessible/sold/marketed in January 1969

This actually very common for Plarail products. There have been many cases in the past 10 years where products "released" at events could not be delivered until January of the year after.

-plarnold

Very interesting, and good question to ask. However I know the definite answer that the events are not in December.

http://www.tomica1970.com/tomica/etc/mame.html


According to this image, the settlement month is changed to September from 1956. So this means it was January to December from 1953 to 1956, then the fiscal year of TOMY started on October of 1956 as stated in the second bullet point. This means that the events do not happen on December, rather happening on October instead.

Thanks plarnold for asking a very smart question nevertheless!

Vio,

Note the comment below the table on the page you have linked: 製造時期なので実際の発売時期と多少異なる事も有るかもしれません。

Fiscal reporting periods generally have no bearing on the manufacturing pipeline.

There may be links but nothing is guaranteed and therefore it is no mystery there could be conflicting information.

If you are able to access the reporting data for the year 2020 to 2021. There will likely be products designed in 2019, prepared for manufacturing in 2020, marketed in late 2020 and sold in 2021. The reason in this scenario would be the pandemic causing manufacturing delays. However, the fiscal reporting for the products may be assigned to 2020 and not 2021 because the costs may have been incurred in 2020 for production.

-plarnold

They also didn’t say that fiscal reporting periods have no bearing on the release dates, but this is the best source that we found so far so we have no choice but to stick to it for the moment.

Agreed that nothing is guaranteed, but when we checked the numberings on some of the Plarail products we own, we safely say that this information follows the numberings and we could come to an agreement that the release date of the products happened on the date provided by the numbering based on the official catalogues.

So far 2020 and 2021 not touched yet, still investigating.


We had a past case nearly a year ago where we are able to confirm that the settlement period is not in December:



Looking at the above table's right most column again, we see that 22 corresponds to 1973.10 ~ 1974.9.
I said that the D-51きゅうこうれっしゃこうかセット was actually manufactured in 1973 because G-22 is a period from 1973.10 ~ 1974.9, but then one of our teammates said it was actually manufactured in 1974 due to the "New" stamp on the image in the 1974 set catalogue (The rest of the catalogue is confidential so I had to censor it).



And then my てっきょう which was manufactured in 1973, also had G-22.

From this, we were able to confirm that the manufacture dates of G-22 could be in 1973 and 1974, and that is our reasoning behind why the settlement period is not in December or January for 1973 to 1974, and therefore the table is correct in the way that the settlement period is not in December or January.